Greetings,
Inquire about the 3SGE Beams, specifically the 5th Generation MT version (Blacktop).
Can a built (top and bottom) N\A 3S engine provide a daily driverable 250whp, reliably.
I know that a full race spec 3S engine existed that had a maximum output of 300whp at close to 9k RPM, but that is obviously not a realistic goal.
Thanks for the input
3SGE Beams Question
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Re: 3SGE Beams Question
Daily Drivable and reliable are completely relative to the individual.
Are you looking for 200k miles or 20k miles?
Do you mind driving a relatively high strung motor that makes most of it's power closer to redline?
If it was well built and you drove it nice I would say it should be pretty reliable. Power in the mid range should be decent and still out pull most NA 4A builds.
Now with that said it will take a good bit of money to gain that 50 HP. I could never justify it. If you already have a 4AGE you could have a turbo 4A that would be as fast for half the money.
I feel the same way about the beams as I do the 20V 4As. They come pretty high strung from the factory. If you aren't going to be happy with their stock power level and don't plan to boost it then generally it's just not worth it.
Want 250 HP? Do a 1GR or 2GR swap. That thing stock running on regular would wreck a built beams and it probably only weighs a few pounds more.
A 4AGTE or 3SGTE would both eat a 3SGE for less money.
Are you looking for 200k miles or 20k miles?
Do you mind driving a relatively high strung motor that makes most of it's power closer to redline?
If it was well built and you drove it nice I would say it should be pretty reliable. Power in the mid range should be decent and still out pull most NA 4A builds.
Now with that said it will take a good bit of money to gain that 50 HP. I could never justify it. If you already have a 4AGE you could have a turbo 4A that would be as fast for half the money.
I feel the same way about the beams as I do the 20V 4As. They come pretty high strung from the factory. If you aren't going to be happy with their stock power level and don't plan to boost it then generally it's just not worth it.
Want 250 HP? Do a 1GR or 2GR swap. That thing stock running on regular would wreck a built beams and it probably only weighs a few pounds more.
A 4AGTE or 3SGTE would both eat a 3SGE for less money.
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Re: 3SGE Beams Question
BEAMS blacktop engines rule. Dual VVTi on both intake and exhaust allow for a RIDICULOUS power band, from 2K up to redline. If you want instant torque at just about any speed, and still have something that revs out, BEAMS is pretty sweet. F20C will deliver an extra 40HP stock, but once you have a stand alone and ITB's, the BEAMS actually plants more WHP and far more torque in total, across the band.
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Re: 3SGE Beams Question
1. Fast
2. Reliable
3. Cheap
you can only choose two
2. Reliable
3. Cheap
you can only choose two
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