Dyno/Build Pages...

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oldeskewltoy
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Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby oldeskewltoy » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:36 am

This is an entirely new thread in Club4AG. I will need your cooperation. PLEASE do NOT litter this thread with ANY comments... be they good, or bad... approval, or disapproval.

If you NEED to comment... PLEASE go here - viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1336

This thread is for build information backed up with dyno results ONLY.


4AGE, N/A, on stock AFM based engine management: #s measured @ the wheels

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Engine model and generation:
4AGE - TVIS head/Silvertop block

Top End Modifications:
large port head - bowls/seats ported(no other porting), pinned and port matched intake/TVIS/head, Web 294 cams, AEM camgears(intake advanced 3 degrees), RC 225cc injectors

Bottom end modifications:
20V silvertop stock except 16V OEM high compression pistons(10.3 to 1)

Management:
factory ECU

Fuel used
89+

Intake:
K&N FIPK

Exhaust:
KBD header, Fujitsubo LegalisR large muffler twintip

Driveline:
Silvertop flywheel
OEM AE92 disc and pressure plate

Other Info
The above dyno run was done with a tired 20 year old fuel pump!
Last edited by oldeskewltoy on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
OST Cyl head porting, - viewtopic.php?f=22&t=300

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby oldeskewltoy » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:38 am

4AGE, N/A, MAP based aftermarket management: #s measured @ the wheels
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Short and sweet
AE92 smallport head - ported
Web 577 camshafts, T3 timing pulleys set to 111 degrees

AE92 high comp block w squiters plugged, decked, stock head gasket
Euro TVIS pistons(10 to 1)
final measure compression ratio of 10.75 to 1
AE86 "small" crank w 40mm rod journals, lightened, shotpeened, and balanced "3 rib bluetop type"
AE86 small connecting rods - lightened, shotpeened and balanced
wrist pins are aftermarket steel 64 grams vs 89 grams for stock
blacktop flywheel w AE92 clutch
crank pulley is OEM 2 row, machined and rebalanced as a single row

KBD 4/2/1 header
Brave 60mm exhaust

FJO racing management
sequential injection
wasted spark ignition

running on 92 octane fuel


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/oldeskewltoy/ae71/Surreptitious1stdyno.jpg

141whp @ 7468, 108#s wheel torque @ 6127rpm.

Engine numbers(back calculated by their dyno) 164hp @7468, 128ft/# 6127rpm[/SIZE].
OST Cyl head porting, - viewtopic.php?f=22&t=300

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby ariel_86 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:59 pm

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105.51 whp @ ~5800rpms
93.78 ft-lbs wheel torque @ ~4800rpms

Not sure why they didn't take it higher then 6000rpms, but I know they only ran it twice because I forgot to turn on (or tell them to turn on) the electric fans, so it got really hot & almost overheated by the end of the second run.

I haven't checked the timing in forever, or the plugs & wires, but those were replaced in 2011. She's been my daily driver since November of 2012, but I did drive her a bit during 2011. Fresh fluids in the diff, trans, & engine. New oil & fuel filter. Cleaned the Spectre air filter & oiled it. Dumped a can of Sea Foam into the crankcase and the gas tank (1/2 a can in each) and filled her up with 91 octane instead of the crappy 85 I've been running her on.

I'm sure there were a few more ponies in her if they would've pulled her all the way to 7500-8000rpms, not sure I'd get much more torque though. They didn't hook up the A/F sensor to the tail pipe or anything, so I don't have no clue what my A/F reading really is. I'm pretty sure I'm running rich, though I haven't looked into it.

Car Specs:
1985 Corolla GTS
4AGE 1.6L smallport/hi-comp from FWD GTS (90-91)
bigport intake cam (240* duration, 7.56mm lift)
smallport exhaust cam (232* duration, 7.1mm lift)
TRD .8mm head gasket
HKS valve springs
HKS adjustable cam gears
HKS timing belt
T3 underdrive water pump pulley
TRD racing header
2.25” mk III Supra Turbo catalytic converter
2.25” over differential exhaust with MagnaFlow muffler
Spectre 3” cone filter
XTD Stage 1 pressure plate & 6-puck clutch
TRD short throw shifter
Welded differential
Tokico Blues shocks/struts
Tanabe GF210 lowering springs
1985 Toyota Corolla Sport GTS - Ariel - 105.5 whp 93.8 ft-lbs of torque
2006 Toyota Tacoma SR5 V6 6MT - mmm, taco!
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 5MT - 2slow

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby Duy- » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:42 pm

Sorry too lazy to install the scanner, mind the fold

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16v Smallport redtop
bluetop ecu and injectors
rebuilt with a trd headgasket and 3 angle valve grind
rewelded smallport intake
trd headers
toda flywheel
injen intake
fujitsubo catback
2" highflow cat
electric fan
bluetop cams


120 whp @ 6650 rpms
104 ft-lbs @ 5100 rpms

user comments: engine is mostly stock, will return for a second dyno with bigger exhaust/ smallport ecu/ and cams

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20v blacktop
stock ecu
t3 velocity stacks (open stacks)
aftermarket adjustable FPR
obx stainless steel headers
no cat
obx catback

159.2 whp @ 8200 rpms
114.4 ft-lbs @ 6450 rpms

user comments: ran it pretty rich, the 20v seems to like it, saw flames out the exhaust. fuel pressure 45psi

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby 20vmki » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:04 pm

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20v Blacktop w/ C160 trans
Custom 2.25in exhaust
T3 velocity stacks
93 oct

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygYqNTUDmDI

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby gaijin_rokurunner » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:33 pm

heres the 5.5ag dyno sheet
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20v power.....powered by Orion's Demise!
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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby onnaj » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:11 pm

This my dyno. It's a completely stock 4AGE 20V (with only open air intake) fresh rebuild eninge. Since the rebuild the engine has done about 1700 miles.
It has the Silvertop flywheel, aircon and power steering, C52 gearbox. It also has the stock 7AFE exhaust with catalytyic convertor. I'm going to change the exhaust cause by coincedence i discovered yesterday that the last exhaust part has an inside diameter of only about 1.5" (40mm). A blacktop needs 1.75" at least but is more happy with 2" or maybe max. 2.25".
I'm not really happy with the power output, but the torque curve is really nice.

EDIT: it's on RON98 (93AKI i think)

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Check my 4AGE 20V BT teardown, rebuild and transplantation over here --> http://club4ag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3382

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby ethergore2 » Sat May 23, 2015 5:27 pm

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High comp
.5 over pistons
3 angle valve job
Bronze guides
280 Crower cams 8.3 lift
Milled head and block
TRD thin head gasket
YSPL "most badass" headers
Custom exhaust, no cat, 1 resonator, Magnaflow exhaust
HKS adjustable cam pulleys (cam timing never adjusted or degreed)
SIlvertop ITBs
T3 stacks
Fidanza flywheel
Exedy 3 puck
Light 1 piece drive shaft
VEMS Fuel management- Alpha N
91 octane gas

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Re: Dyno/Build Pages...

Postby mustangraptor03 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:29 am

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Note: Dynapack Dyno

MegaSquirt MSPNP2 Baseline Tune (From 8/2012)

MSPNP2 with MAP conversion
K&N custom filter
Web Cams 577 Grind
HKS Valve Springs
T3 Adjustable Cam Gears
3 Angle Valve Job
Rotating Assembly balanced to 8000 RPMS
AE92 Flywheel
Electric Fan Conversion
Wiseco 81.50mm Forged Pistons
OBX 4-1 Header
Decat
Fel-Pro OEM Headgasket
APEXi 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust
93 octane fuel

97 WHP @ 7200RPM
91 lb/ft @ 4200RPM

I have since switched to using ITB mode (Speed Density and Alpha N) instead of just Speed Density and working that out until I take it back to get the tune looked over once over and smoothed out.