4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims??

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4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims??

Postby onnaj » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:27 am

We're busy with (partially) rebuilding a 4AGE BT.

We're a bit confused if the valves needs shims to adjust them. The manual says you have to use shims, but there are no shims in the engine at the moment. We're wondering now if the 4AGE from factory doesn't have any shims? Or should they have shims?

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby jdm86gtz » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:39 am

Lift up the buckets and the shims sit onto the valve stem. The shim will probably be stuck to the inside of bucket with oil.

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby allencr » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:28 am

onnaj wrote:We're wondering now if the 4AGE from factory doesn't have any shims?


Don't you have any clue at all that your sludge is hiding them? :shock:

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby onnaj » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:31 am

We really thought that maybe from factory there's no need for the shims. The car never had any service we think, so that's the reason we thought the valve were never adjusted and shims therefore were never added.
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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby NikNes » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:55 pm

By the way, which shims did you use? Toyota Echo?

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby gaijin_rokurunner » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:52 pm

no theres no matching shim available on any american sold car...u have to get them from japan hit me up if you need assistance getting them
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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby MisterJerk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:53 am

Have you measured the clearance yet? or did you lose the shims? Get the 4age 20v manual downloaded and check the valve lash.

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby onnaj » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:49 pm

MisterJerk wrote:Have you measured the clearance yet? or did you lose the shims? Get the 4age 20v manual downloaded and check the valve lash.


No not yet, we cleaned and rebuild the engine block. The head is now at the rebuild shop to get it washed. After that we're going to meausure the valve clearance.

But i think i do have shims after all. They're a bit different then we expected. But they come between the retainers and the bucket aren't they? Does someone have a picture of them just to be 100% sure instead of 99%?
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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby MisterJerk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 am

http://www.k1motor.net/AE101%20AE111%20TRD.htm


these guys sell them, they also have a picture of what they look like. right side of the page.

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I'm not endorsing their company in any way. I have not bought anything nor dealt with them in any fashion. BUT they have tons of stuffs for sale.

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby onnaj » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:40 am

Thanks! That's what i was looking for :) We thought these things were only to protect the bucket, but shims they are.

For the one who also don't know, they're the things in the front of the picture:

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Re: 4AGE BT Valve clearance adjustment question --> No shims

Postby Army Fork » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:07 am

I can vouch for K1, purchased a few parts from them last year. Save a week delay getting them shipped, they are a legitimate retailer, delay was due to the guys being in Malaysia for a race last summer.
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