AE86 starter motor options

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AE86 starter motor options

Postby IndiaDorifto7 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:11 pm

The time has come to replace my starter and I'm looking at some different options. I'll probably get a new aftermarket starter but I hear mixed results on different options. Mainly I'm looking through Rock Auto. What starters would you recommend? The car I have is a '86 GTS, T50 trans, stock 4AGE

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby davew7 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:29 pm

I think the only other bolt on option worth considering is the Planatary gear reduction type 0.8kw starter, 2.85kg: P/N 28100-15190 for a AE92.
This is the type with the long through bolts. It does not look like a reduction starter at first, but it has planatary gears inside. It came on some AE92s with 4A-GE. Its main advantage is that it is very light.
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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby jondee86 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:19 pm

Some pics here... viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18729&start=30#p124044
Straight bolt-in job with no mods required. Reduction starter sounds tough too :)

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby IndiaDorifto7 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:14 pm

Thanks jondee86! I think I'll just go with a standard AE86 starter for now. Should be enough for my needs :)

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby CloudStrife » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:38 pm

If you want to go outside OEM 86 starters, I'd just get this:

https://shop.battlegarage-rs.com/produc ... nsmissions

And then get a nice Accord starter. That way parts will be easier to come by in the future.

Although rebuilding a starter is quite easy.

Here is a good and easy write-up for refreshing the contacts:
http://www.dorikaze.ca/dorikaze_guides_ ... hp?a_id=28

Also want to clean the starter wire contact points and after that I would put a light coat of di-electric grease.
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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby SgtRauksauff » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:28 am

Planetary reduction is amazing.

I've got a '96 F250 with the 7.3L diesel. it was slightly slow turning over, and found that the 2003 superduty starter bolted in, and was a planetary reduction starter. Rockauto had one brand new for 80 bucks. KILLER deal. after that starter was put in, the engine turns over SO much faster.

it was at least five pounds lighter, and about half the size. I do not know if that difference will scale to the starter on a 4AGE, since they're already pretty tiny.

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby cedu » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:38 pm

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby cincybranr » Tue May 26, 2020 6:13 am

CloudStrife wrote:If you want to go outside OEM 86 starters, I'd just get this:

https://shop.battlegarage-rs.com/produc ... nsmissions

And then get a nice Accord starter. That way parts will be easier to come by in the future.

Although rebuilding a starter is quite easy.

Here is a good and easy write-up for refreshing the contacts:
http://www.dorikaze.ca/dorikaze_guides_ ... hp?a_id=28

Also want to clean the starter wire contact points and after that I would put a light coat of di-electric grease.



Hey Guys,

I wanted to bump this old thread because I’m also in need of a starter......AGAIN......

So first let me say that Sam and the guys at SQ are simply amazing. However; I went the honda starter route and had nothing but clearance issues.

1st setup: AW11 Manual rack with AW11 Manual Yoke. I actually had to order a button head bolt for the starter just to get clearance between the starter and the yoke. It no longer rubbed or ‘stuck’ until hitting bumps around corners. NO GOOD.

2nd setup: OEM AE86 Manual Rack with OEM AE86 Manual Yoke. Better Clearance, but still comes very close to the yoke during rotation.

Maybe it’s my car, but I just haven’t been comfortable with the fit which makes me sad, but I just thought I would offer up my opinion.
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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby Nick94tt » Tue May 26, 2020 6:51 pm

Not knowing what an oem runs of late, I've had good luck with acdelco and Denso units. Usually for a starter I buy local for a quick exchange in the event it goes bad assuming the prices are close.

You could also check the brushes and contacts on your current starter. I got a new set of solid copper contacts for under $15 shipped a while back.

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby allencr » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:24 pm

cincybranr wrote:... a starter......AGAIN......

...comes very close to the yoke during rotation.


Heatshield?
Contact after abuse counts, like a little kiss to the dirt & coating, or like it's been hammered on?
Rebuilds not inspected and/or disassembled are iffy, otherwise great & can last a long time.

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby cincybranr » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:16 am

allencr wrote:
cincybranr wrote:... a starter......AGAIN......

...comes very close to the yoke during rotation.


Heatshield?
Contact after abuse counts, like a little kiss to the dirt & coating, or like it's been hammered on?
Rebuilds not inspected and/or disassembled are iffy, otherwise great & can last a long time.



No heat shield, but I should get one!
Yeah I've had some issues with starters but it went like this..

My starter drama if you care enough to read lol
Starter in the car when I bought it was aftermarket; started sticking and then eventually wouldn't start.
Starter 2 was the OEM Honda and it started having the same issues.
Bought a new OEM Honda starter and it lasted a very short time before I started getting clicking again.
Realized, maybe it's not these starters, but the relay switch..Replaced that.
It ran great for awhile and then boom..Starter issues again.
Re-installed OEM honda unit and it's been working great. I just don't like how it can rub the yoke sometimes.
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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby jondee86 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:32 pm

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Re: AE86 starter motor options

Postby Nick94tt » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:31 pm

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