Corolla AE88/86 Black Limited

[E_Money]

Ok so I decided I want to build a clean Black Limited corolla. I need as much information as I can obtain for the build.

-So far I know:
-only made in 1986.
-kouki front and kouki rear bumpers
-power windows, remote side mirrors, power steering
-redline tail lights

What I want to know:
-what wheels did they come with? Advan type 3?
-whats the color code for the gold?
-whats the side skirt? Where can i buy them?
-how much would these sell in USA

Has anyone done this?

[Tora]

Copied from the first result when you Google "AE86 black limited" [ http://www.jdmchat.com/showthread.php?t=224 ]

For a Complete Restoration you need...

- b.l. GOLD Trueno Emblem
- kouki bumpers, lights, sideskirts, spoiler, trueno window visors, trueno mudflaps, JDM corner lights smoked
- decal set (door decals, hatch decals, redline tailight decals if u dont want to buy the hard-to-find b.l. redlines, and the gold strip.
- snowflake rims in gold
- b.l. odometer (with orange letters)
- b.l. climate control (with orange letters)
- b.l. shift knob (orange letters and stiching)
- b.l. steering wheel (similar to the one on the JDM FX-GT, orange stiching that says "twin cam 16")
- b.l. seats (which is levin seats with stichting that says "black limited")
- interior is black and grey
- some people also told me all black limiteds have a sunroof and the rear wiper, but i've done some research and it's not always the case..please correct me if i'm wrong.

ALL came with sideskirts
ALL have manual trans, power windows, steering, sunroof, LSD
some have the zenki hatch spoiler, mudflaps from the factory
came in kouki cloth panels
the dash is also different
floormats either have "TRUENO" or "BLACK LIMITED" (not 100% sure, but its like that in the MR2)
window visors say "TRUENO"

ALL are kouki models

Steering Wheel Center Mark
45125-12460

Rims
42611-22390

Trueno Emblem
75314-12030

Redline Center Plate
75471-12010

Shift Knob
33504-12150

Gauge Cluster has to be bought in 4 pieces
83244-1A510 - Water Temp
83243-1A090 - Gas Gauge
83110-1A680 - Speed
83242-1A550 - Tach

Heater Control Plate
55519-12080

RH Black Limited Door Decal
75985-12440

LH Black Limited Door Decal
75985-12440

RH Blacklimited Quarter Molding (Trueno)
75651-12421

LH Blacklimited Quarter Molding (Trueno)
75652-12421

Rear Hatch Sprinter Trueno Decal
75442-12321

Rear Hatch Apex Decal
75443-12551

RH Pin Striping
75981-12510 Fender 1
75983-12330 Fender 2
75985-12430 Door
75991-12520 Quarter 1
75993-12230 Quarter 2
75979-12040 Fuel Door
75995-12090 Quarter 3

LH Pin Striping
75982-12510 Fender 1
75984-12330 Fender 2
75985-12430 Door
75992-12490 Quarter 1
75994-12250 Quarter 2

[E_Money]

Right on i appreciate it

[GEOVA TRD]

U can post ur build as u go.Im sure we would all love to see it.

U can get the decals at Torparts,They r exact to oem & the quality is excellent.
http://www.torparts.com/

I dont know if u can source the parts thru toyota but from time to time they
pop up for sale on club4ag or ebay.Ur best bet would probably be someone in
japan as i understand these parts are hard to come by in the U.S.

Good luck on ur project and plz keep us informed.

[EJ86]

[KonaTrueno723]

These blk limiteds are rare where I live. I've encountered just one around 8yrs ago which i did a tbelt service on,& it was a immaculate black limited 86,, all original & unmolested as in the pics above..i clearly remember it cause the chick that drove it was just as beautiful too! Haha

Good luck on your project limited sir!

[E_Money]

Thats for all the support guys. It's going to come out super clean. Im not going to half a$$ anything. I have a buddy stationed in japan hes good with the corollas. He brought back a rhd one when he was stationed in japan before i had met him here in usa. He left cause japan's US bases was better.

[carbd7age]

That last picture posted clearly shows an automatic transmission. Was the 4AGE available with an automatic ever anywhere? That would be the rarest of the rare.

[Red]

You're trying to build an authentic right hand drive car?

Or just a lhd "tribute" car?

AFAIK anything that says "Trueno" never was sold in the US market although a black Limited was sold here, I vaguely thought in the '87 model year.

Decals and stickers are not likely to exist so you're looking at custom graphics to be made unless you can find a stash. Clean interior parts, not going to be easy either. I'm guessing you're fantasizing about a $20,000+ custom build job, that can't be sold in the US for half of that when you're done.

[E_Money]

Copied from the first result when you Google "AE86 black limited" [ http://www.jdmchat.com/showthread.php?t=224 ]


ALL are kouki models

Steering Wheel Center Mark
45125-12460

Rims
42611-22390

Trueno Emblem
75314-12030

Redline Center Plate
75471-12010

Shift Knob
33504-12150

Gauge Cluster has to be bought in 4 pieces
83244-1A510 - Water Temp
83243-1A090 - Gas Gauge
83110-1A680 - Speed
83242-1A550 - Tach

Heater Control Plate
55519-12080

RH Black Limited Door Decal
75985-12440

LH Black Limited Door Decal
75985-12440

RH Blacklimited Quarter Molding (Trueno)
75651-12421

LH Blacklimited Quarter Molding (Trueno)
75652-12421

Rear Hatch Sprinter Trueno Decal
75442-12321

Rear Hatch Apex Decal
75443-12551

RH Pin Striping
75981-12510 Fender 1
75983-12330 Fender 2
75985-12430 Door
75991-12520 Quarter 1
75993-12230 Quarter 2
75979-12040 Fuel Door
75995-12090 Quarter 3

LH Pin Striping
75982-12510 Fender 1
75984-12330 Fender 2
75985-12430 Door
75992-12490 Quarter 1
75994-12250 Quarter 2

Tora are these color codes?

[Red]

Dude, those are PART NUMBERS not color codes. You're going to build a car and you don't know what a part number looks like?

And they are part numbers for a "JDM" aka Japanese Domestic Market car, that never was sold in the US and would not meet DOT/EPA regulations if simply brought here for sale. Not to mention, right hand drive.

Color codes, for a car that only came in (ahem) one color?

[E_Money]

You're trying to build an authentic right hand drive car?

Or just a lhd "tribute" car?

AFAIK anything that says "Trueno" never was sold in the US market although a black Limited was sold here, I vaguely thought in the '87 model year.

Decals and stickers are not likely to exist so you're looking at custom graphics to be made unless you can find a stash. Clean interior parts, not going to be easy either. I'm guessing you're fantasizing about a $20,000+ custom build job, that can't be sold in the US for half of that when you're done.

I know TRUE AE86s Toyota Sprinter Truenos werent sold in the US.

I have a 1986 toyota corolla Gt-S with power windows, power sunroof, and remote side mirrors. It didnt however come with powersteering. It has a manual rack which from what I hear is very rare and hard to come by. So I'm almost there basically so why not build it.

I'm building a LHD Black Limited. So tribute car/ replica / authentic B.L whatever you want to call it.

Of course decals arent going to be factory OEM because for one thing BL came out in Japan in 1986 thats 20+ years ago. Like someone had mention you can get as close to OEM through ebay or Torparts or other sites etc etc.

The interior isn't going to be full of OEM BL things unless I find them. Everything inside the car right now is stock so I will either get the seats upholstered or get the OEM BL.

[E_Money]

Dude, those are PART NUMBERS not color codes. You're going to build a car and you don't know what a part number looks like?

And they are part numbers for a "JDM" aka Japanese Domestic Market car, that never was sold in the US and would not meet DOT/EPA regulations if simply brought here for sale. Not to mention, right hand drive.

Color codes, for a car that only came in (ahem) one color?

How would they not meet DOT / EPA regs?

And sorry I wasnt sure if he was talking about parts because I was emphasizing on the colors previously. All the interior parts im not too concerned.

[LongGrain]

Dude, those are PART NUMBERS not color codes. You're going to build a car and you don't know what a part number looks like?

And they are part numbers for a "JDM" aka Japanese Domestic Market car, that never was sold in the US and would not meet DOT/EPA regulations if simply brought here for sale. Not to mention, right hand drive.

Color codes, for a car that only came in (ahem) one color?

How would they not meet DOT / EPA regs?

And sorry I wasnt sure if he was talking about parts because I was emphasizing on the colors previously. All the interior parts im not too concerned.

because jdm corollas dont meet those standards, thats why. there is no such thing as a USDM (united states domestic market) black limited.

what else is there to say.

and i feel sorry for anyone who would spend the thousands and thousands it would take to make a replica of a stock ass car. Pathetic.

the only black limiteds that are cool are.. well.. black limiteds. They arent cool for what they have, they are cool for what they are. Making a replica is just going to be a stock-ass corolla with some overly expensive stock-ass parts. bo-ring.

[Jeonsah]

Honestly. I would not listen to what these guys have to say. If you wanna make your car look like what you want, then do it. Its your personal car and all that matters is if your happy. Dont build/design your car to meet others expectations.... build it only to fit yours. Sure it may cost a lot and it may not be authentic but no one else does it. Just follow what your gut/heart says.

Good luck

Vic

[E_Money]

Dude, those are PART NUMBERS not color codes. You're going to build a car and you don't know what a part number looks like?

And they are part numbers for a "JDM" aka Japanese Domestic Market car, that never was sold in the US and would not meet DOT/EPA regulations if simply brought here for sale. Not to mention, right hand drive.

Color codes, for a car that only came in (ahem) one color?

How would they not meet DOT / EPA regs?

And sorry I wasnt sure if he was talking about parts because I was emphasizing on the colors previously. All the interior parts im not too concerned.

because jdm corollas dont meet those standards, thats why. there is no such thing as a USDM (united states domestic market) black limited.

what else is there to say.

and i feel sorry for anyone who would spend the thousands and thousands it would take to make a replica of a stock ass car. Pathetic.

the only black limiteds that are cool are.. well.. black limiteds. They arent cool for what they have, they are cool for what they are. Making a replica is just going to be a stock-ass corolla with some overly expensive stock-ass parts. bo-ring.

Well it'll look JDM stock from the outside but upgraded in the inside. I don't see a difference between doing a BL build then a usual panda Corolla build other then price on parts, but like I said its going to look Bl outside since im not to concerned with the inside since im going to reupholster the OEM seats panels and carpet.

[LongGrain]

Well it'll look JDM stock from the outside but upgraded in the inside. I don't see a difference between doing a BL build then a usual panda Corolla build other then price on parts, but like I said its going to look Bl outside since im not to concerned with the inside since im going to reupholster the OEM seats panels and carpet.

lol "usual panda corolla build"

i dont even know what that is supposed to mean, but black and white 86's suck just as much as replica black limited will.

[E_Money]

Honestly. I would not listen to what these guys have to say. If you wanna make your car look like what you want, then do it. Its your personal car and all that matters is if your happy. Dont build/design your car to meet others expectations.... build it only to fit yours. Sure it may cost a lot and it may not be authentic but no one else does it. Just follow what your gut/heart says.

Good luck

Vic

True words. I think a BL would be an eye catcher even though it was never sold in the US. Looking at motormavens or speedhunters all these guys pay special attention whenever a BL shows up in a meet. Ive seen really clean corollas gts replicated GTVs that turn heads.

[LongGrain]

i guess if you dont have enough of a sense of style to build a cool looking car on your own.

have fun drawing in the sea of replica ae86's that is the entire USA.

[E_Money]

Well it'll look JDM stock from the outside but upgraded in the inside. I don't see a difference between doing a BL build then a usual panda Corolla build other then price on parts, but like I said its going to look Bl outside since im not to concerned with the inside since im going to reupholster the OEM seats panels and carpet.

lol "usual panda corolla build"

i dont even know what that is supposed to mean, but black and white 86's suck just as much as replica black limited will.

Like some who builds a corolla with a black and white panda look.

Then what corolla doesnt suck to you? Lol theyre all 112 hp unless you do swaps to drastically increase their hp.

I plan on doing suspension work, intake, exhaust, etc etc to increase the power

Im not to concerned about doing crazy molestations for speed but rather a clean classic weekend driver. Im not a track racer nor do i plan on being one when I have a decent job that pays. So theres no point in trying to do swaps with engines to try and have the fastest "corolla" on the street cause If I was going to buy a car for racing I would not waste my money upgrading a corolla when I can buy a car thats well equiped for racing performance.

I respect your opinions with all honesty and hopefully if you do see me driving a BL replica/tribute/ or whatever you want to call it, that I may persuade you to say that thats one hell of a clean ride.

[E_Money]

i guess if you dont have enough of a sense of style to build a cool looking car on your own.

have fun drawing in the sea of replica ae86's that is the entire USA.

I dont understand this statement. Why wouldnt i have a sense of style in building a cool looking car.

Notice how majority of people who own old school corollas celicas 240s rx7s go for jdm looks. Its cause they look better then the USDM but of course not everyone is going to agree with me cause some may think USDM looks better.

From what i see a lot of corollas go for the JdM.

[Tora]

"Panda" and the kind of "Black Limited" you're proposing aren't builds: they're paint jobs. In the case of panda paint, it can be pulled off tastefully, but most of the time people half-ass it and it ends up looking terrible. (For example: rattle-can white exterior with a red engine bay.)

A gas station attendant was complimenting me on my GTS a couple of weeks ago. Said his buddy had one. He asked me, very seriously: "So you gonna paint it white?" My car is a blue / blue 2-tone. It's like an endangered species. I could have slapped him for saying something so stupid. There's a lot of resentment in this community towards people (especially young people) who somehow manage to get their hands on these extremely rare cars, paint them up like Initial D, and then go crash them.

Sure, you can slap some stickers on a Maaco-glossy black, but you'll still be far from authentic. You can try (for many, many years) to find and afford the steering wheel, amber colored cluster, shift knob, and all of the other rare bits that made the Black Limited different. Mud flaps, Black Limited Redline center garnish, OEM wing and sideskirts. These things are not easy to find, nor are they cheap.

Honestly, I think there are cheaper ways to style a more authentic AE86. You have a black Corolla with power windows; that's pretty cool. JDM bumpers on an all-black? That sounds pretty cool too. Getting a bit expensive, but cool. What this discussion really boils down to is: "Should you or should you not put Black Limited stickers on your car." I vote don't. But it's your car, and your money. If you want to spend $240 on stickers, that's your business.

If you're hell-bent on going full-on "Black Limited", I'll sell you a complete power steering setup.

[E_Money]

I want to keep my manual rack. Its not going to be full black limiteded in the inside mainly just the exterior. And its not going to be repainted by maaco or rattle can'd. Ill be taking to a professional auto paint where itll be professionally painted to look brand new. I could careless about steering wheels or oem bl seats, shift knobs, bl carpet or whatever. No ones really going to see the inside when i have the car tinted and if they do itll look oem but not bl oem. Iplan on reupholstering the oem car seats into leather. Seen one done and thought it looked clean. But yeah i guess its not really a full bl just when im mainly focusing on the outside.

[carbd7age]

My car is a head-turner and gets attention all the time. "Look at that crappy corolla on the tow truck again." Paint it some weird dumbass color and you'll get all the attention. My paint job cost me less than 30 bucks, and half of that was for PBR.

[Red]

"How would they not meet DOT / EPA regs?"
Little things like the JDM front bumpers not being reinforced, they're not street legal in the US. The doors aren't reinforced, they're not street legal here either. "Correct" engine might not meet EPA specs, and so on.
Personally, I just don't get taking a nice sharp car like a vintage black GT-S, and dressing it up with decals and trim that never really existed here, much less on the lhd cars. What you've got afterwards is a faker, as opposed to just putting a sharp car back in "correct" concourse mint condition. But then again, I also refuse to buy shoes or clothing that have huge logos and inflated prices, and they're way popular too.
I'd spend the money on blueprinting the engine and installing some "superstock" mods first, and that can eat up nough bucks. But it's not my car, as long as what you're doing makes you happy, enjoy!

[E_Money]

My car is a head-turner and gets attention all the time. "Look at that crappy corolla on the tow truck again." Paint it some weird dumbass color and you'll get all the attention. My paint job cost me less than 30 bucks, and half of that was for PBR.

I dont want my car being a head turner cause its crappy or has a weird neon color paint job.

"How would they not meet DOT / EPA regs?"
Little things like the JDM front bumpers not being reinforced, they're not street legal in the US. The doors aren't reinforced, they're not street legal here either. "Correct" engine might not meet EPA specs, and so on.
Personally, I just don't get taking a nice sharp car like a vintage black GT-S, and dressing it up with decals and trim that never really existed here, much less on the lhd cars. What you've got afterwards is a faker, as opposed to just putting a sharp car back in "correct" concourse mint condition. But then again, I also refuse to buy shoes or clothing that have huge logos and inflated prices, and they're way popular too.
I'd spend the money on blueprinting the engine and installing some "superstock" mods first, and that can eat up nough bucks. But it's not my car, as long as what you're doing makes you happy, enjoy!

yeah theyre not street legal but how many people have them? "What you've got afterwards is a faker, as opposed to just putting a sharp car back in "correct" concourse mint condition." then that speaks for everyone that has jdm on their car whether its a corolla or not. I'd be surprised if you happen to have a jdm bumper or any jdm parts on your car.

[Red]

You're right. I'm still dancing with the one that brung me.

[E_Money]

You're right. I'm still dancing with the one that brung me.

JDM is as original as its going to get has down. Yeah we hve USDM parts that fit our regulations for our roads, but these cars are 20+ years old. Im sure theres people who still use them as a daily driver but these cars are meant to sit in the garage as they are now classics and be taken for a daily joy ride on the weekends. Unless youre serious in track racing theres no real reason to upgrade it with mods. I think a 16v, intake, exhaust and a good suspension is all it needs for it to be an enjoyable ride. Everything else from JDM or USDM appearance will make it a clean ride just depends on how people feel about it. You want a fast japanese car on the street? Get a STI or Evo like everyone else. Thats just my two cents. For the most part, I can bet that the majority like the panda paint and that the majority like the JDM bumpers and the JDM appearance compared to the USDM corollas. Thats why most car shows almost always pays special attention to them even though thousands had previousy done it.

[Red]

'they are now classics"
You and I may think so, but ask Hagerty's or one of the collector insurers and they are pretty clear about "riceburners need not apply". Period. Not classics.
Taking a US market car (and really, whatever-Densu-Motors, have you ever found any reference to any such "Densu" ??) and putting it in drag to emulate a Japanese domestic one...That's like taking a '68 Mustang and writing "SHELBY" on it. Except, it ain't a Shelby and it never will be one, it will always be a counterfeit. Excuse me, homage.
We got what we got, and IMO the right way to show a Trueno is go buy one, bring it over, and show it. Not put one of ours in drag. Although I'd sure love to lose the po-up headlights.<G>

[E_Money]

'they are now classics"
You and I may think so, but ask Hagerty's or one of the collector insurers and they are pretty clear about "riceburners need not apply". Period. Not classics.
Taking a US market car (and really, whatever-Densu-Motors, have you ever found any reference to any such "Densu" ??) and putting it in drag to emulate a Japanese domestic one...That's like taking a '68 Mustang and writing "SHELBY" on it. Except, it ain't a Shelby and it never will be one, it will always be a counterfeit. Excuse me, homage.
We got what we got, and IMO the right way to show a Trueno is go buy one, bring it over, and show it. Not put one of ours in drag. Although I'd sure love to lose the po-up headlights.<G>

Being in America, AE86 corollas or most japanese cars were never an iconic car back in the day. Corolla AE86 only became noticed whenever drifting started and Initial D. Just look at most of the classic movies, tv shows in america. Japanese cars were never noticed because America was in love American muscle and the horses and power it brought in drag races. Even now they're only noticed for the reliability and gas efficiency. Poll everyone between a 60s Camero aggainst any japanese car and see what you get. Older japanese cars werent catogorized as classic here in the US because its just another "toyota" "honda" "nissan" etc.

theres a difference in a Shelby and a 68 mustang when comparing it in this scenario. both are domestic cars here and youre not replictaing something thats unobtainable in america. Shelby is part of Ford not in a sense that theyre the same company but Shelby uses Ford's mustangs and modifies them to sell them as a Shelby Mustang Cobras. So i don't understand what it has to do with this situation.