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Oil cam seal
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:35 pm
by Ultimx
I just replaced these both less an 3k miles and the exhaust cam seal is leaking again on my 4age, is there a reason why it is leaking so fast and gone bad? Damn seal is brand new and I have to replace it again

Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:41 pm
by allencr
Seal driven in or put in place before the cam cap is tightened down? Driven in straight?
Lubed seal lip & cam surface before install?
Sealer/gasket cement on the corners of cam cap?
Sure that's it?
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:48 pm
by Ultimx
Put in place then cam cap installed. Lip was oiled, and gasket maker was placed on the od of the seal
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:52 pm
by KonaTrueno723
I'd replace it again... But before you do, check the seals contact area on the cam first for any nicks or deep grooves. If none, replace accordingly.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:28 am
by MisterJerk
KonaTrueno723 wrote:I'd replace it again... But before you do, check the seals contact area on the cam first for any nicks or deep grooves. If none, replace accordingly.
Also check for dirt and contaminants on the cam itself. if it has crap on it, there goes your seal. I asked the dude at the local machine shop the same question a few years ago, he told me to clean it, and when i thought it was clean, use carb cleaner and a scotch brite on the surface where the seal goes. After that, i still have the same cam seals with no leaks.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:16 am
by ga_goosh
Ultimx wrote:Put in place then cam cap installed. Lip was oiled, and gasket maker was placed on the od of the seal
no you need to tighten the cam cap then install the seal. it is in the kouki manual in my sig if you need the toyo procedures.
I installed one once that leaked. it turned out it was the spring retainer had come out a bit. i put the seal spring back in place and reinstalled and it was good as new. as mentioned clean clean and clean again.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:00 am
by Ultimx
I'm going to tear it down tonight and see what I find. Last I remember was that it was clean and no burrs or scratches were on the cam seal
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:13 am
by gotzoom?
As allencr said, the service manual calls for applying sealant to the cam caps surface where they touch the head. I'd bet that's where your leak is.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:42 pm
by KonaTrueno723
gotzoom? wrote:As allencr said, the service manual calls for applying sealant to the cam caps surface where they touch the head. I'd bet that's where your leak is.
I'd bet it is too..correct procedure for that forward cap.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:05 pm
by Ultimx
I try it again today and see what's going on. Hopefully it works!!!
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:05 pm
by Ultimx
So I tore it down and the lip of the inter Id of the seal is torn....I replaced it and I will hopefully know by tonight if it worked lol
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:25 am
by allencr
Any idea what tore it?
Thanks for the update.
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:17 pm
by KonaTrueno723
Defective seal maybe? I had a new seal go out on me once..it was missing its retainer spring for that lip part
Re: Oil cam seal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:22 pm
by Ultimx
No idea. When I installed the seal I took the cams out of the head. Spring is still in the back of the housing. Cam surface were the seal sits was clean and is when I installed the other one.