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Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:55 am
by phanist
i have a brand new Silk road 4-2-1 header . trying to install it on my BT in ae86 with PS ..bad news the steering column is in the way .. not possible to install it.. any body out there have one of these header installed? any tips?
or am i stuck with this useless for LHD?
thank
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:14 am
by SidekickChuck
I have a SilkRoad header on my ae86 LHD. From what I understand, you can not run it with PS. Has to be a manual rack.

Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:16 pm
by jondee86
phanist wrote:i have a brand new Silk road 4-2-1 header . trying to install it on my BT in ae86
with PS ..bad news the steering column is in the way .. not possible to install it..
any body out there have one of these header installed? any tips?
or am i stuck with this useless for LHD?
thank
Pretty sure it can be done with a bit of effort...

Check out this link for the cure
http://www.hachiroku.net/forums/showpost.php?p=143091&postcount=74Cheers... jondee86
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:31 am
by phanist
Both above are 4-1 header silk road.. My happen to look difference. It 4-2-1
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:37 pm
by jondee86
Whoops... my bad, I didn't even know that Silk Road made a 4>2>1 !!!
I think that you are gonna have to visit an exhaust specialist who can TIG
stainless, and discuss a little cut and weld to make it fit.
Cheers... jondee86
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:23 pm
by phanist
Yup
These 20v LHD are hopeless especially with PS rack...
But thank for the input
Jondee
Post have a picture of the silk road 4-1 installed with PS in place... Right?
I guess the question on that is. Is that a 4-2-1 header or 4-1?
I have a 16v 4-1 maybe trd maybe copy and it fit without any problem.
But this header i got is 4-2-1.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:40 pm
by jondee86
The hi-rise headers are 4>1 so both pics above are 4>1.
Did you get this one ??

Cheers... jondee86
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:20 pm
by phanist
yes that the one

is there any help with that?...........it look nice ok but fitment bad...i just order an manual rack setup...if that go help.
the part that hit the steering shaft is the merge between 4-to 2 and with both of it running parallel it too wide and would hit the steering shaft ..and of course the PS rack didn't help by being a bit tall
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:26 pm
by jondee86
Looks like a nice piece, but I don't think there are a lot of them around. And
making it fit is more than anyone can do over the interweb. You really need to
figure how far it has to move over, and how far it has to lift (make some marks
on the tubes with a sharpie) and go talk to a clever exhaust guy. He should be
able to tell you if it is doable.
Cheers... jondee86
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:41 pm
by phanist
U mean
Take it to an exhaust shop and ask them ifthey can mod it like cut and re weld ?
Jondee
U know the manual rand and ps rack?
Is there a real big different is size especially by the join and steering shaft?
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:19 pm
by jondee86
phanist wrote:U mean
Take it to an exhaust shop and ask them ifthey can mod it like cut and re weld ?
Yes... but find a guy who can TIG weld stainless, not some Jiffy Lube place that just
fits readymade exhausts.
U know the manual rand and ps rack?
Is there a real big different is size especially by the join and steering shaft?

You can see that the P/S rack is fatter, but it installs with centerline of the rack and
the steering input shaft in the same position. The P/S rack has a lot of tubes that can
be in the way also... take a look at your own car and figure where you would be saving
space for the install.
Cheers... jondee86
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:35 pm
by phanist
Look like if i switch over to a manual rack i maybe fit it with mod tread u post above from the other forum.
But keeping the ac unit become a problem if i take the PS off
Neither option it would cost money to get it fit

Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:20 pm
by phanist
Ok what about the mr2 rack?
What is the different there compare to ae86?
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 am
by phanist
would u recon i bang the header part where it would hit the steering shaft?
would it effect the header performance? i would just bang it a bit if it only cosmetic
LOL
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:34 am
by carbd7age
No don't bang it up! Change the rack or something, but please don't tear up a quality part like that.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:08 pm
by phanist
I'll try one more time to fit it without banging the header...the picture jonder posted sure look like the PS was stil in place. But that with silk road 4-1 header... So fitmentit a bit different here.. But maybe with a little push and pull then tie thing up... Before i bang it...
Lol really dont want to spend a couple more hundred to pay the shop to cut and reroute it...
Unless
Some
One out there interest in this piece maybe i sell it
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:55 pm
by te51levin
Subscribed. Kind of wanting to see what's going on here.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:37 pm
by SidekickChuck
If you are forced to sell, it shouldn't be hard.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:57 am
by phanist
sorry for the long wait guy..
LOL i bought a aw11 manual rack to try fit this header.. but i couldn't wait for mail man to come.. so i got bored and burst the hammer and bang the Sh*t out if it... ..
to PS rack it too fat and tall... i bet if i waited for the Manual rack it would clear the steering shaft..
so it just sitting in my garage collecting dust.. banged up... too lazy to pull the rack off and install the manual rack to test fit again.. i should of be more patience and wait... ttt
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:55 am
by SidekickChuck
Good job ruining a high value quality header
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:02 pm
by ogdougynutty
You know that question you had about ruining the performance of the header. You probably just did that, post pictures of where you hammered. If you hammered the collector, you would have messed up THE part that makes the power.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:07 pm
by phanist
yes... i bet that piss a lot of ae86 guru off.
so I'm in the market for a nice 4-2-1 header to suit... my blacktop with PS set..
i mean why can't a PS set have have a quality header ...?
i can't find a shop that do custom header where i live...
any one out there got a custom header done for their 20v BT? with PS???? i willing to pay.... for quality stuff that work....
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:40 pm
by SidekickChuck
You could have sold yours for $600 or more then afford one that fits. But banged up, you devalued it significantly. Well done.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:48 pm
by te51levin
Alright, gentlemen. He made a mistake. He knows that. How about we help him recover instead of taunting him like schoolyard dickheads?
Just an idea.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:13 am
by phanist
It cool .. They can yell at me.. I earn it.
I hammer the 1st and 4th cylinder pipe.. Not the merge
I have to try and remember how to post pic on here.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:08 pm
by Shinchu
you willing to sell it?
i would just cut out the part you destroyed and weld in a new section. got a pic of the carnage? i have a manual rack with 20v BT. its got a header but... its a cheap ebay thing. not sure if it would fit if i had PS. maybe john (JSPfab.com) will be able to make something for you.
anyway post pics of the damage and how much you would sell for.
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:55 pm
by phanist
yah i be putting a lot of part for 4ag and 20v up for sell soon..
but not now i have a very serious situation to deal with now...
so that won't happen till about 1 month later..
i got
lightweight fly wheel
clutch kit
water kit for 20v
dizzy relocated kit
some greedy trust exhaust
messed 4-2-1 silk road
some coil on plug.
oil cooler kit
a running bluetop engine with harness and ecu.
trd 3rd member with 4.778 R&P in great condition.
all this be up for sell soon
Re: Silk Road 4-2-1 ae86 header
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:26 am
by phanist
Ok so I did mess up the nice piece of work... And it now sitting at the matrix garage ... And master yoshi is looking to see if any one on here is interested and will to commit on buying a header base on that Silk Road I bang up... Sign up people.. I'm in...
Here is the link to sign up thread
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9448Jump in on it guy..
Let make this happen . Let get some nice header for the PS guy...