**Celica Supra Non Welded Conversion**

[NostalgicHiro20v]

I've been searching on this all moring & have not seen anything in depth about converting the AE86 rear to Celica Supra rear without welding. Everything I've seen has shown the conversion performed with welding involved.
I just blew out my diff & am not able to find another one at the moment.
I know there is a conversion for the AE86 using the Celica/Supra rear.
I'm just trying to confirm that in order to convert over without welding the AE86 brackets to the Celica/Supra rear I can just use Techno Toy Tunings 4 link & lateral rod. I'm using Powered By Max real coilovers so the spring perch is not an issue. Lemme know guys, thanks.

[MisterJerk]

afaik, just the 4 links and lateral from t3 are required... Might want to holler at t3. they are friendly and willing to help

[phanist]

hey i been reading post here and come across some thread about swapping out the ae86 rear end to celica supra or hilux or what ever that is called. i was wonder why are ppl swapping.. is the celica supra or that hilux rear end strong better then the gts rear end?
educate me guy..

[BoRoYaSui]

It sounds like you done your research already.

t3 sells links to mate the supra rear end to the ae86 chassis. Other than supra rear being bigger it is different than the ae86 in that:

The bolts that connect the control arms the rear are larger than the ae86. I believe the upper mounts are further apart than the ae86. the lower are have the same spacing. The panhard mount is relatively further away than the ae86. and the spring perches are larger as you mentioned.

[phanist]

so in this swap parts need is just the celica supra rear end and T3 rear link? no welding require?

[Shinchu]

yup. but keep in mind you need the celica/supra conversion lateral bar as well.
direct from T3 website:
"This 4 link set has all the proper lengths, and stainless bushing sizes to make that rear end a direct swap. You will also need our Celica/Supra swap Lateral Bar to complete the swap, so check that out too!"
https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/ae86 ... r-end-swap

and link to lateral bar: https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/ae86 ... 86-corolla

[mikeyee]

the rear spring perches being different diameters could be solved with going to a true coilover setup on the rear shocks. eliminate the need of the spring perches all together.

[Shinchu]

thats exactly what he said he was doing in post #1. but yeah. true statement.

*BTW i have PBM coilovers they are incredible.

[phanist]

hmmmm
but if im not going over 200hp i dont need to swap to a bigger rear end do i>?
this swap only for those with lot of hp right?

and i dont know if im ok with the rear coilover setup either i once saw a post of a guy whom have that setup broken on the top where he/she mount it. for that reason i like to stick with spring perch and shock )

[Shinchu]

yeah celica supra rear is only if you are really beating on it, or lots of power (or both!).
mine has an oem rear with weir performance upgraded ring and pinion, axles, and spool. it will take abuse from V8 swaps (500 hp). i think im okay with my 20v BT haha

and powered by max coilovers come with a new top mount for the rear so it wont break. its a great setup!

[phanist]

can you show me a picture of that mount setup u talking about?
that be nice to see

u have weir R&P installed? 4.77 ?
if so i have that R&P installed too and i now having this odometer reading wrongly problem.. did u have that too? if so how did you correct it? please share

[AMF_ae86]

I answered another member's questions here: http://club4ag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4210

The big needs are: Welding perches if not going with coilovers, Adjustable Panhard Bar, and custom shortened driveshaft.