Toyota engine code

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:14 pm

Hi guy
I bought an blacktop... That is not really a blacktop..
Engine code is 4A 082248 that was on the block... But the head look a 20v blacktop but bottom end only have 3rib... And crank only have 6bolt not 8...
Is this possible for a blacktop to look like...
I also check the front cover... Is doesnt really fit ... Look like it too tall...
I really dont believe this is a 20v bottom...
Can any one help
Identify this block as the guy that sale me this engine say he sold me a earlier rare model blacktop...
Thank

gotzoom? · Postby **gotzoom?** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:05 pm

All blacktop engines had 7-rib blocks and 42mm cranks with 8 bolts. Sorry

Postby **oldeskewltoy** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:17 pm

phanist wrote:Hi guy
I bought an blacktop... That is not really a blacktop..
Engine code is 4A 082248 that was on the block... But the head look a 20v blacktop but bottom end only have 3rib... And crank only have 6bolt not 8...
Is this possible for a blacktop to look like...
I also check the front cover... Is doesnt really fit ... Look like it too tall...
I really dont believe this is a 20v bottom...
Can any one help
Identify this block as the guy that sale me this engine say he sold me a earlier rare model blacktop...
Thank

You have photos?? Show us both sides of the block, and the crank

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:01 pm

i dont know how to upload pic here
let me try
omg i dont know how to upload picture
any one can show me please
thank

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:38 am

ok finally i know how to upload picture thank to gaijin help

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OK guy please help me solve this weird engine problem.. which the seller JDM engine imports and ALN JDM motors claim is a legit 20v blacktop...
it doesn't look like a 20v block to me at all

i work on my swap usually at night when i get home from work.. so a little a night.. and come swapping the flywheel and clutch assy over from my 16v... i finally realize that the block and crank that cam with the 20v blacktop that i paid a total of 1750$ shipped. is looking pretty weird.. it only have 6bolt at the crank for flywheel and 3rib block... and i was wondering why the front cam cover top to bottom is far off alignment .. the cover doesnt fit right.. and far off...
and those are fresh T3 pulley and of course the need part for the conversion... i of course remove the un needed part of the 20v and replace them..RWD part. never remove the head and block......
the seller is now blaming that i change it out... and trying to cheat them... very LAME.......
all i wanted was a correct 20v 4age blacktop stock... not a pre mod engine.... that is not what i paid for or ask for...

Postby **KonaTrueno723** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:43 pm

Easiest is to pull the pan, check rod journals, oil squirters ect..could well be a 4ac block for all we know. From our veiw, looks to be 1/2 a BT.. "top half"

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:23 am

Yah but im not pulling anything else off... I already put everythîng back on..
Is doesnt look like a 4age 20v block at all ...
The seller is accusing me of changing the block and trying cheat them... So lame...
I have two 4age blacktop before and both look the same... As i complete the 20v blacktop to ae86 before... But this time i ordered from the same guy... He or his people decided to fu..ked me up this time with this BS half ass engine... Top half as 20v and bottom end is lame 4ac or 4afe.....
He is now telling me it too late he wont refund because 14day return period is over...
It take 4 week or so to even ship it back...
here is some other weird issue i found as i was checking the engine out again carefully

from memory.. i do think not think the 4age 20v black originally have an oil cooler system.. this engine have one.. and the alt bracket is'nt even a correct bracket.. it doesnt even bolt on right. as cam cover it not cover correctly neither. a half inch gap...

Postby **KonaTrueno723** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:39 pm

Geez..email them those pics of what you found..supplier needs to make this right on their end.seems you've dealt with them in the past before? How much did you pay for this engine,,,if you don't mind me asking?

ga_goosh · Postby **ga_goosh** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:29 pm

some one has deffinately been inside that motor. your rear main seal plate has allen bolts?!? that isnt stock. also the oil cooler plate looks like its from a 1uz 20v dont have oil coolers at all. hmmm what engine seller did you use? that way i can know who NOT to go to.

cmt1390 · Postby **cmt1390** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:46 pm

feel sorry for you man.....that same thing happen to me....

I even installed the engine and ran it, when I decided to rebuild found out it was running 16v pistons....... yeah 16VALVE bluetop pistons :shock:

..... I didn't believe it was even possible but those guys pull off all kinds of crap. Just report the guy and buy parts from legit people that way your sure $$$$ gets invested properly......

I rather pay $500 bucks for a part from a trusted vendor :ugeek:

and not $100 from someone just trying to sell 8-)

.

Who did you buy that engine from?

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:51 pm

Ok guy beware of this two group

First is jdm engine imports .. His name is William Lavold he is in tamba florida

Second is ALN jdm motors in Texas
Beware of them never trust these guy... They full of bs ... Coward

I send them those picture and they accuse me of changing out the block and try to get free stuff... They are bunch of scammer... They try tell me all kind bs...
Konotrueno
I paid total 1750.00$ shipped.... That not cheap....

Postby **KonaTrueno723** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:09 am

phanist=just saw the $1750 disregard...sorry,,,man that is alot of your hard earned money..time to take action bro

And yup, put everything back as you received it on the pallet...You already got our honest opinion about the motor, i would strongly suggest gettin' all documentation,,payment receipt,emails, pictures, phone calls made to resolve the issue...all of it together & call your CC company put in a claim..flipping it around with false accusations on their part, it's down right fraud! It has to stop.

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:14 am

im current waiting for my CC bank to send to me a dispute form to fill out ... yah this have to stop... i just cant' believe they would do this kind of scam..
at first he actually tell me he pull off the tranny that came with the engine he sent to me and it have 8 bolt tanny flywheel on them... how is that possible that i end up receiving a 6 bolt crank with unknown block...
then he say why if u have a very rare model of the 20v?... i was think yah a very fu..ked modify 20v.. ..
and yes i already put all the crap back together the way it came and waiting for shipping company to come get it... i will contact the BBB and file a complain against them too.

Postby **carbd7age** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:55 am

That's a whole pile of Frankenyota stuff right there. I'm curious what bottom end that is, too. Get it settled, then pull the head off and see what pistons you've got.

Postby **KonaTrueno723** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:49 pm

^^frankenyota is right..! Let them say whatever they want,at this point it won't matter.. I wish you best of luck sir..

After its all said & done, you prob gonna need a BT still..mybe get some feedback from members whos already purchased good motors from reputable sellers,their experiences..help get u pointed in the right direction..or just rebuild one yourself

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:25 pm

Yah.... I dont think will open this motor up as im prepare to send it back to them... Im not going to touch anything on this engine any more... Just sendin it back unless they dont want it back then i canopen it up. But for now i dont want to do anything ... If not they have excuse and reason to accuse....
Yah and any one with good experience on where to get liget engine with reputation please advise

cmt1390 · Postby **cmt1390** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:21 pm

KonaTrueno723 wrote:^^frankenyota is right..! Let them say whatever they want,at this point it won't matter.. I wish you best of luck sir..

After its all said & done, you prob gonna need a BT still..mybe get some feedback from members whos already purchased good motors from reputable sellers,their experiences..help get u pointed in the right direction..or just rebuild one yourself

I agree man that is what this forum is all about help each other out. Keep us informed and best wishes to you man

phanist · Postby **phanist** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:25 pm

yup i just turn in my dispute form to my Credit card company...

these guy can't just take people money and give people BS engine...
i paid him the price he ask for.. and didnt get what i paid for... that just wrong..

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